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Oxalis dillenii ?

Verfasst: Di Sep 26, 2023 1:38 am
von BubikolRamios
Focus on size of biggest fruit I found. O. stricta fruit should be smaller according to alpenflora.

http://agrozoo.net/jsp/Galery_one_image ... a34ccf18d3 ?

Re: Oxalis dillenii ?

Verfasst: Di Sep 26, 2023 12:27 pm
von Kraichgauer
Fruit size is absolutely useless for the determination of this Oxalis group. Rather focus on hairiness of the fruits, etc.

Michael

Re: Oxalis dillenii ?

Verfasst: Mi Sep 27, 2023 8:14 pm
von Anagallis
O. stricta (usually) has these septate, long glass hairs on the fruit. The German keys seem to bee to restrictive regarding fruit length. The Rothmaler says up to 12 (15) mm while American literature says up to 3/4 inch (19 mm).

Re: Oxalis dillenii ?

Verfasst: Do Sep 28, 2023 8:55 am
von BubikolRamios
attached, deatail from OP plant , seems that is branched (O. stricta)
and this not branched O.dillenni https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... ii_sl6.jpg

namely there are no white ridges on O. stricta seeds : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... i_sl18.jpg

Re: Oxalis dillenii ?

Verfasst: Do Sep 28, 2023 5:22 pm
von BubikolRamios
Various stages of seeds ripeness.
http://agrozoo.net/jsp/Galery_one_image ... a62473e9b9
I guess that is white ridge or is it not compared to:
http://www.mittelmeerflora.de/Zweikeim/ ... _agg.htm#4

From image I guess one can not say anything using Fruchtstiel 'zurückgeschlagen' oder 'gebogen'.
If I get it right gebogen is right under fruit, right ? Not at stem.

Re: Oxalis dillenii ?

Verfasst: Do Sep 28, 2023 6:36 pm
von Anagallis
BubikolRamios hat geschrieben: Do Sep 28, 2023 8:55 am O.dillenni https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... ii_sl6.jpg
BubikolRamios hat geschrieben: Do Sep 28, 2023 5:22 pm Various stages of seeds ripeness. http://agrozoo.net/jsp/Galery_one_image ... a62473e9b9
Both look like O. stricta to me because of (1) the presence of long glass hairs on the fruits (hard to see with the bright background) and (2) the pedicles which are not bent downwards as they should be for O. dillenii.

Re: Oxalis dillenii ?

Verfasst: So Okt 08, 2023 2:57 pm
von BubikolRamios
Thanks, updated with fruit with black background:
http://agrozoo.net/gallery/Oxalis-stricta