Leucoagaricus badhamii/americanus ?

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BubikolRamios
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Leucoagaricus badhamii/americanus ?

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http://agrozoo.net/jsp/Galery_one_image ... 1da65f3f3c
http://agrozoo.net/jsp/Galery_one_image ... 7b8381aa14

namely some sources say poisonous. Local source says raw probabably poisonous, cooked good.

Badhami, nanely meat turns black ? Any info on americanus about that.

Cross cut of stem of specimens on image in matter of 1 sec turns from white to yellow, in 10 sec to black, outer edge of tsem. Center of stem much later.

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Re: Leucoagaricus badhamii/americanus ?

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Hi,
I never found any of them ...

In which habitat did you find the mushrooms? (see descriptions) EDIT: I overlooked the habitat "in vegetable garden" - this fits for L. americ.
Growing clustered? (if so, then L. a. - but this growth is not a must)

Leucoagaricus (in agrozoo.net you wrote leucocoprinus) americanus should have a +/- bulbous stipe, colouring first yellowish (in pictures sometimes more bright/clear yellow than your mushroom, sometimes this "orange-yellow" you show, then reddish, then- in the stipe - getting darker (blackening) . (See French site, the only one mentioning this. American site says getting dark reddish brown everywhere, getting dark red if cooked.)

Leucoagricus badhamii should turning red when bruised everywhere (without yellow colours first) and getting black all over after some time.

The best macro-descriptions I could find (clearly to distinguish with micro-features)
https://www.mycodb.fr/fiche.php?genre=L ... rce=search (L. badh.)
https://www.mycodb.fr/fiche.php?genre=L ... rce=search (L. americ.)

Both species are not considered as edible (on most sites ... because they are rare, problems to distinguish, no experiences)
I found one page, where someone tried L. americ. - without problems, but I would not try it.
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Re: Leucoagaricus badhamii/americanus ?

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Local page says it should be found on buried tree bark. In my case there is buried turkey manure, mostly consisting from spruce saw dust. Like layer 15 cm thick.

Out of head, lost images, longitudal cut of stem: white, 1 sec turn yellow, 10 sec turns red. Then black. All that goes to outer edge of stem cross cut, in next 24 hours entire inner surface turns black.

Growth clustered.

Cooking: submerging into cold water: water colors red. Cooked - water dark brownish red - more like brown ,mushroom brown.

Will get new images on color change, ....
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First image short water shower treatment = Explanation how one can find small ones with closed cap, entire mushroom brown.
a bunch: http://agrozoo.net/gallery/Leucoagaricus-badhamii
currently named Leucoagaricus badhamii in tendency to rename to americanus.
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Note: https://www.123pilzsuche.de/daten/detai ... rmling.htm
google translate says: gills without 'inner' gills.
Though on one of my images http://agrozoo.net/jsp/Galery_one_image ... 1da65f3f3c they are clearly visible, local page says they are there.

Maybe goggle translate thing or error on 123pilzsuche.
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Re: Leucoagaricus badhamii/americanus ?

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The pictures, the clustered growth, the habitat are perfect for Leucoagaricus americanus.
In 123 "frei mit Zwischenlamellen" means gills not attached to stipe (free), normal gills mixed with smaller gills (mit Zwischenlamellen, yes - they are there).
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